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Building San Mateo PD's Data-Driven DFR Program

Posted Jun 26, 2025 | Views 121
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Noreen Charlton
Public Safety Strategy @ Skydio

Noreen Charlton has over a decade of experience in the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department's crime scene investigations section, where she responded to nearly 4,000 incidents, including the Route 91 Harvest Festival mass casualty event. Leveraging her deep forensic expertise, she has transitioned to advancing public safety through 3D technologies and the integration of drone programs.

Her current role is dedicated to Drone as First Responder (DFR) programs that improve public safety agencies' emergency response capabilities. As a member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences Standards Board's Crime Scene Investigations Body, Noreen actively contributes to shaping national standards in forensic documentation and analysis. Her expertise bridges the gap between traditional investigations and emerging technology, helping agencies adopt innovative solutions for officer and community safety and efficiency.

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Anthony Riccardi
Lieutenant @ San Mateo Police Department

Anthony was born and raised Redwood City California and has spent his entire life in the Bay Area. In June of 2002 Anthony was hired as a Police Officer by the City of San Mateo. Anthony has worked several assignments during his tenure as an Officer including Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, Investigations and Training. Anthony quickly found his niche as an instructor and was assigned as the lead range master, rifle instructor, Taser instructor, active shooter instructor, and Field Training Officer.

In 2005 Anthony was selected to join the NCR SWAT team as well as the San Mateo County Terrorism Counter Assault Team (TCAT). Anthony was the head team leader for both teams and now serves as the assistance commander for NCR SWAT and TCAT.

In 2015 Anthony was promoted to Sergeant and spent the next 5 years with the best job in the world as a patrol Sergeant on midnights. He was then assigned as the administrative Sergeant and then motor unit Sergeant. In January 2022 Anthony was promoted to Lieutenant and was assigned to Field Operations. One of his ancillary duties became managing the drone team. Anthony also worked to advance SMPD’s technology in order to directly support the Officers out in the field.

Anthony is currently the daytime admin Lieutenant with a variety of duties. He continues to manage the drone program and is involved with the Real Time Information Center which SMPD has just implemented.

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SUMMARY

In this on-demand session, Noreen Charlton, Public Safety Strategy Lead at Skydio, is joined by Lieutenant Anthony Riccardi of the San Mateo Police Department to walk through how to launch and scale a Drone as First Responder (DFR) program using real call-for-service data.

The webinar outlines the full progression from single-drone deployments to fully operational dock-based DFR systems, emphasizing how public safety agencies can take a crawl-walk-run approach. Riccardi shares San Mateo’s rapid advancement through these stages and the tactical advantages of remote and autonomous operations.

The session reinforces DFR’s value not just for law enforcement, but as a citywide infrastructure asset—supporting fire, public works, and other civic missions.

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TRANSCRIPT

Hey, everyone. Thanks for hanging out with us today as we discussed data deployment, building a DFR program by the numbers.

First and foremost, I wanted to apologize if you were hoping to get through this session a couple of weeks ago. I lost my voice and much to the dismay of my husband and children. It is definitely back now. So I appreciate your patience with this session, and changing the date.

A couple of housekeeping things, we do have a Q&A and a chat. Please feel free to drop any questions or comments you have there. Those are being funneled back to us and we will get them either during or before the end of the session. And, yes, this is being recorded. This will be available to you on the Skydio live account, a few hours after the session is complete, so you will be able to revisit it at any point in time.

So to get started, I'll give a quick intro and then I'll pass it off to my friend here. My name is Noreen Charlton, and I lead public safety strategy on the marketing team at Skydio.

And in a former life, I spent more than a decade with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. Lieutenant Riccardi, you wanna do a quick intro?

Yeah. Thanks, Noreen. Anthony Riccardi, lieutenant with San Mateo PD. I've been here a little over, twenty three years. My current assignment is the daytime admin lieutenant, and I manage our, drone team amongst the other things.

Yeah. You stay pretty busy.

Before we kinda get into the meat of this session, I just wanted to give a brief overview on Skydio if you're not familiar with who we are and what we do. While we do serve different industries, with drone technology, public safety is a top priority for us, and we currently serve more than seven hundred public safety agencies in all fifty states and abroad, and we are heavily focused in drone as first responder programs. So while we're here to help you, if you wanna kind of start small with one drone and build your way up, we are very heavily focused on DFR and what that looks like for agencies across this country, and this session is very much dedicated to determining the best way to deploy your DFR program.

So I wanna briefly kind of discuss, what we call the path to DFR, and this is basically how we are seeing most public safety agencies mature their program from that single drone on a shelf. And so that's the first image you're seeing here on the left. These are our specialized units. So whether you're part of a SWAT team or a fatal unit or crime scene investigations, these are usually the teams that have a drone on the shelf, and they are requested out to a scene kind of once everything is static.

It's no longer a dynamic scene unless it's a SWAT call out, and someone's bringing that from an office, a lab, a substation to the scene, you know, thirty, forty minutes after to get information, situational awareness for everybody else on scene. And that's where most agencies are starting with one drone, and they inevitably will probably stay there forever. We don't really see agencies getting rid of these specialized units. We don't really see drone teams taking over these specific tasks.

We do think they'll live forever in this the space of, specialized units.

But then what we're seeing in the next image is what we call patrol led deployment. So you're seeing the officer there at the patrol vehicle using it for a call for service. And this is something that the Oklahoma City Police Department has really evangelized with the use of drones. They started taking them off of the shelves in their sub stations and putting them into the trunks of patrol cars so that they were available and close by, scenes when they needed a drone.

And, basically, this was to get better information without needing helicopters, and so have them in patrol vehicles on given shifts, maybe a couple per shift, so that these are available and ready close by. But the problem with this is that the officer who has the drone in their trunk is now stuck with controlling the drone, and that's what you're seeing here. The officer is standing by the patrol car, controller in their hand, so now that's one less person that's available to actually respond to the incident.

When we released Viscadio x ten, we started something that we called patrol led drone as first responder, and this is enabled by remote operations. So we think the remote operations piece is really what makes it a drone as first responder program. But a lot of agencies are doing this today. So still drone in the trunk. However, the officer who's on scene with the drone doesn't actually have to be the operator. That can be taken over by someone in a dispatch center, a real time crime center, whatever you choose to call it, and that officer is now free to get back to work on the ground with everyone else.

They don't even have to be certified as a pilot. Right? They literally just have to take it out of their vehicle, power it on, put it on the ground, let someone know, hey. Can you take over? And they will commandeer the drone and do whatever they have to do with it, and then land it back for the officer to put it back in their their patrol vehicle.

And then the last two phases that you're seeing on this are drone is first responder, dock based. We're looking at this, in these particular situations, you're seeing these as hives. We'll get into that a little bit more here shortly.

But we're looking at this two ways, either piloted, dock based EFR. So, again, you have a remote operator who is piloting or operating the drone, and then an autonomous dock based DFR where the drone is responding based on certain triggers, whether it's CAD events or ShotSpotter or a license plate reader. The the drone will automatically and autonomously respond to these incidents without needing an operator in the loop. And that's a little bit further into the future, but right now, this dock based drone as first responder is very much live with multiple agencies across the country, and we're rolling it out very quickly each and every day.

And so in this image, what you're seeing is kind of this doc based GFR deployment as we envision it. And as more agencies are implementing it today, we're really moving toward this world of smart cities and what we're calling kind of drones as infrastructure. So you see in this image, not only are the drones responding to fire incidents or vehicle crashes or other types of active incidents, but we're seeing a lot of cities use them for building inspections or for their utilities. And so they're using them in a lot of different ways all in the same system, so everyone is operating off the same place. So, Lieutenant Riccardi, I kinda wanna pass it off to you. I know your agency has moved pretty quickly through this process from specialized unit to dock based DFR. Can you talk a little bit about where you started and where your program is today?

Yeah. Absolutely. So we've we've started just as you described with a drone on the shelf that got called out for special events or tactical events. We used them on SWAT callouts. And, obviously I mean, clearly, the the value we saw the value right away, and you get your your wins right away where the drone was played a played a big role in in in the success of the mission.

And then, you know, we saw those wins, and we're wondering why we don't have those on other calls for service, and why why are we not providing this asset to our our everyday patrol folks? Why are we keeping this on the shelf and only bringing it out for special events? So we quickly went to a patrol led model where we had, drones out on patrol.

We got a couple of dedicated cars. We got a dedicated van, and we're out on patrol flying, patrol led missions. And and then we ran the same problem like Noreen described where now I have cops with their head in a remote, and there's officer safety issues. If you're not in a a nice part of town, luckily, San Mateo doesn't have too many of those, but a lot of you guys out there do. So if you're in a very unsecure or unfriendly area, you're gonna have to have multiple cops, at a command post or or a flight center just making sure that, the pilot is safe, and or, have a tactical officer relaying information, so it eats up a lot of resources.

And then, we got into, the the dock deployment, and and, it was really it was really eye opening for us how efficient, the dock deployments are. And when you're running dock based DFR, and flying remote is is where it's at. The remote the remote portion of of the operation is is key because, you're able to fly from a safe space. You're not having to drive or find a place where you can take off and land.

You're not worried about obstructions here and there. You know that your let your launch and land zone is safe, and you can get to anywhere in your city, depending on where your docks are based relatively quickly. So, we we went from shelf based to, to dock based in in almost just under a year, I think. And, it came really fast, and our biggest challenge right now is finding staffing.

So, luckily, we have a couple of light duty officers, that are happen to be pilots and are tech savvy and are working in the Arctic and piloting at the same time. So we have staffing at the moment.

I literally just had a conversation with my chief this morning about, we're gonna have to find staffing because, when they go back to work, we're we're gonna be in a hole. And, it's becoming such a valuable tool. Our our officers and our, supervisors on the street are are depending on it, and they're asking for the drone before we even before before the call calls even finished being dispatched. They're asking for these resources.

Yeah. That's super helpful. And I think we'll talk about staffing a little bit more here in a couple slides later. So, because there's a lot of questions about how that works best for DFR.

Skydio DFR is currently live in agencies of all sizes. So different size land area that they serve, the number of officers that they have on the agency, the number of calls for service that they get each year.

And, yeah, we decided if we can figure it out in New York City, that's great. They are truly a unicorn. No one else is like the NYPD.

But if we can figure it out there with the skyscrapers and the connectivity struggles, like, certainly, we could figure it out in other agencies.

And so this is just a very small sample of the types of agencies that we're working with, but, you know, it's obvious to everyone that all agencies are very different and you all operate very differently despite potentially even being kind of neighboring agencies. We all just do things very different, and so we now have a lot that we're learning from that we've learned a lot over the last year or so, and we're constantly iterating to make sure we're getting things better and more, you know, customized for your particular use case. Additionally, Stadio has employed more than two dozen former law enforcement, public safety, employees from various agencies across the country who really can just, you know, offer their input into how we develop our products and why it matters to agencies like the ones that they served, which are agencies like yours.

So really quickly, I wanted to touch on a study that we did in, the fall of last year, and we looked at it about a sixty day period. We got about two thousand DFR flights that we got insights from.

But first, I wanna talk about twenty seven thousand Skydio x ten flights by public safety agencies. So these are controller based. These were just x ten flights. These were not drone as first responder programs.

These agencies could have flown up to four hundred feet. They were within line of sight. These were not BVLOS, flights. And we found that on on average, these agencies were flying at about a hundred and forty three feet, altitude. And so we were learning that even though agencies can fly high, they were getting a lot more information and felt comfortable flying low to get into restricted spaces, right, to tight spaces, to parking garages, to GPS denied environments.

And a lot of them were getting really low and close to use the drone to clear vehicles before officers were would approach.

And then we realized that continuous overwatch is a really, really important feature for programs.

Twenty eight percent of all flights were relieving another drone on scene. So meaning they had a drone on scene, the battery was getting low, they sent out a second drone to essentially take the place of the first, and so it was relieving that drone, something that we call on station relief.

And seventeen percent of all of the calls for service require a long response time. So when we look at battery life, and this is dependent on so many things, the weather, the environment, how you're flying, we found that seventeen percent of the agencies were on calls that were longer than that thirty to thirty five minute battery life. So we realized really quickly, we're gonna have to do something that enables agencies to have this continuous overwatch. It's kind of pointless to have a drone program if you can only have it up certain during certain times and you have to bring it back to swap a battery or charge it to charge a battery or whatever the case might be.

We also found that DFR was mostly a night operation. So fifty eight percent of the flights were at night between eight PM and eight AM.

I know when I was in Las Vegas, our air unit went down every night at four AM, four thirty in the morning. And so there were several hours at the end of the graveyard shift, even into the beginning of the day day shift, where they just didn't have access to air support. So drones certainly fill that gap, especially if you have an air unit and you are already operating with helicopters.

But this was super important to us too. So we wanted to make sure that all agencies could fly just as they did during the day with autonomous operations, and it was low friction, and they could do all of that at night as well.

Lieutenant Riccardi, can you kind of talk about when you guys are doing most of your flying?

Yeah. We're working, swing shift hours right now. So, and it really depends on your city. And and like Lorraine said in the beginning, no two cities are the same. No two agencies are the same, and and your calls for service are all kinda vary. So when you're in bigger cities that typically have more nightlife than others, you know, you might get more night flights. We we are right now seeing most of our flights in the afternoon, to late evening and getting into the nighttime hours.

We're working in the Arctic between thirteen hundred and midnight o one zero one ish, and, we're doing a lot of flying. Although this morning, we had a DV call, and in our brand new dock that we just had installed last week, caught a DV suspect fleeing, apartment building. So, at eight AM, you know, you get those you get those as well. So, it's just kinda what what we experienced. Our call volume takes off, at least for for the city of San Mateo. Our call volume takes off at about eleven AM and then peaks around fifteen hundred, then we get a little drop and it spikes again around seventeen, and then carries on past twenty three hundred ish. So that's when we we started matching our pilots with our call volume.

Yeah. That's awesome, and that's super helpful advice to anybody else who's kind of thinking about how they're going to structure their program, to start with. So there are really two competing architectures right now in the world of DFR. One of one is to have a single dock that does battery swapping, and those, DFR programs are looking at land area. And then there's the dock hive, which is what Skydio believes in, which are multiple docks, in a given location. So you have this continuous overwatch for these long calls when you need a drone in the air longer than one battery, when you can't afford to send a drone back to swap a battery because everything's way too dynamic and you just don't wanna miss something.

So in these calls for service that are long, and you have to send one single drone all the way back home, and I'm gonna be very liberal with this. So let's say it takes two minutes for it to fly back home to the dock. It's gotta get back down into the dock. It's gotta do its battery swapping.

It has to get back up in the air, and then it's gotta fly that two minutes back. You are losing minutes of aerial overwatch situational awareness on a dynamic scene. And in a world where you work, where literally seconds matter, minutes is a lifetime. Right?

We it's, you know, it's like when you're on that call and you can hear the sirens coming, but nobody's showing up, you can't have lose that situational awareness.

It's just not acceptable. So we look at everything from an instant volume perspective, which is what this session's about. We're gonna get into what that means and what that looks like specifically for San Mateo and what that could look like for your agency as well. And I wanted to play this quick video. So this was a long drawn out string of crime, but basically, the suspect broke into an occupied residence. The people were able to get out, but he barricaded himself inside.

Swat was outside. You can see them in that image there.

And he found a motorcycle in the garage, decided he was gonna plow through the garage door with Swat outside.

They hit him with some less lethal. He crashed the motorcycle, but he took off on foot.

As you can see in this residential area, all of the homes are, you know, enclosed with a fence and or kind of a cinder block wall and this was also a nighttime operation. So a very violent fleeing felon, because he had conducted multiple felonies that day in a residential area. Just imagine had your drone had to fly back home to swap out a battery when this happened and he took off on foot, you could have easily lost this person. In addition to that, now he's jumping walls into different backyards, and I think everybody knows the second someone's jumping in the backyards and you are trying to follow them, every time you get to that top of the wall, you don't know what you're gonna see on the other side.

So being able to provide this information to the officers, hey. He's in this backyard. He's still running, and not, hey. He's posted up in the corner with a gun.

Don't go back there.

So just think about how critical it would have been if the drone wasn't there and it had to fly back home without having another drone to come replace it first.

So now we're gonna get into DFR math and why we think that incident volume matters.

So kind of wanna relate this back to, as many cities are growing, they realize there's kind of need for another police station, another substation.

They don't look at that based on the land area they serve. They look at all of their call for service data, and they decide, you know, we'll put a substation in an area that typically has higher priority calls for service. You're not gonna go put that out in the middle of nowhere where you have fewer homes and really no calls for service.

And so we look at it as, the dock kind of being a substation and the drone, the drone is first responder being another officer that you can get out onto scene. And you don't wanna just put that anywhere in your jurisdiction based on land area. You really want that close to the area. You really want that close to the calls that matter because they're high priority.

Lieutenant Riccardi, I know that in the last time we kind of spoke about this, you talked about using fire stations for dock placement. So you can can you just talk real briefly about how you consider different areas in your jurisdiction, for potentially placing docks?

Yeah. So when we thought about adding docks to, to our program, we looked at, our city and kinda figured, well, what what's what's in what's what's low hanging fruit for us? Like, a city owned building or, you know, somebody that you're already partnering with. So we looked at our fire stations.

We looked at our other city owned buildings. The fire stations were really, intriguing to us because, at least in our county, our fire stations are all strategically placed for calls for service and overlap. So if you had a hive at all your all of your fire stations, theoretically, you could have, drones already set up in perfect positions for response for calls for service, across your city. So, we ended up finding a, a city library, main library downtown, which actually worked out really well for us.

Our library folks were on board a hundred percent, and, that location worked out good for our downtown our downtown dock. And now we're gonna be looking at, expanding over to the east side of our city. There's a couple of of good options over there. Again, we're we're back to looking at the fire stations over there, to see if that's something we can utilize. But, you know, when you guys are thinking about where you're putting where you're gonna put these docks, think about MOUs that are already in place, partnerships that already exist because trying to go knock on a private business's door and say, hey. Can we put a dock on your roof? And we gotta get up there quite often for inspections, and we gotta run this infrastructure.

It's it's quite an ask. So that's why we went with our, our city owned buildings and and fire stations for expansion.

Super helpful.

So I kind of wanna break this down a little bit more. Let's talk about, NYPD and Charlotte Mecklenburg.

Both roughly the same size in land area, four hundred and sixty nine square miles versus four hundred and thirty eight, but drastically different in the number of officers that serve those communities, and it's because of the calls for service that they have on a daily basis.

You determine your staffing levels for an agency based on how busy you are. You know? And so the same should be said for your drones.

However busy you are, however many high priority calls you have or whatever priority you are looking to use your DFR program for, that should indicate how many drones you need, not just in general circles on a map. That just doesn't align with every other way that you determine how many officers, where your stations are, how many you know, all of those things. That's all kind of very relevant to the call for service in your agency.

So we see DFR as an incident volume problem. And when we build out these programs for agencies, we build them up very much in a crawl, walk, run approach to smart start with a fewer number of docs to kind of get your program up and running, figure out your staffing, get everything in place, and then to build out for full jurisdiction coverage if that's something you were looking to do.

So the question everyone asks is how many and where do I put them?

We have developed a system where we use your historical call for service data, and then we build out a deployment on this crawl, walk, run method to help you determine how many docs you need, how many drones would serve your agency based on different percentages. And so we're gonna walk through San Mateo PD's data, but this is how it's looking for DFR deployments across this country.

You know, I think, Lieutenant Riccardi made it very clear they've kind of gone through this process very quickly and they are building very fast, but most agencies don't. They start small. It's a small build. They have to get, you know, the community on board.

They have to figure out a lot of things for their agencies. We acknowledge drone pro DFR programs are difficult to put together. We're here to help you through that process. But our system ingest your call for service data, and then, that's the one thing you kind of have to provide to us.

And then we choose a whole bunch of different parameters, that's what you're seeing on this slide here. I'm gonna go through what each of those look like so you have a better understanding of what we are doing when we analyze this data.

So we're taking your calls for service, we're taking into account your airspace, and then we're taking into account our x ten vehicle parameters. We're putting that all into our DFR deployment modeling engine, and then we are producing the data like you will see in the next few slides.

So calls for service. Let's talk about that first.

First of all, we wanna know, like, what are you trying to achieve with DFR? Are you trying to eliminate burglary alarms where you just don't wanna send officers?

Are you trying to get eyes on scene for your priority zero, priority one, two, however you wanna look at it so that your officers have situational awareness every single time before they arrive on a call? And then what is your contingency for calls that happen at the exact same time? Inevitably, you're gonna have things that happen at the same time, and you don't wanna put your pilot, your operator in a position where they have to choose which call is more important and potentially send a drone to a scene, and then not send one to another where an officer really, really needed that assistance.

And then for redundancy, multiple drones to different calls, same location, make sure you can send multiple drones at the same time.

And then what is the average call duration? So we're looking at this basically like a minute by minute, point of time throughout your historical call for service data where we're looking at, you know, how long were you typically on scene? How many drones would potentially be needed for this? And so for San Mateo, Lieutenant Rick Hardy, what were you guys super focused? Was it for, you know, high priority calls, or was it for clearing calls for service where you didn't need to use patrol?

Yeah. We were looking to do a little bit of both, and it's actually worked out, that way. So we we took our our priority one, our our priority two calls for service, and, we went to Skydio and created a heat map, which gave us a a good database to to work off of. And we looked at how many calls we can get to if we had, you know, one one hive or two hives or three hives, and we compared one, single dock locations or two two dock locations. So, we're able to kinda really tailor our our purchase, which which helped with the budget and helped, show the city manager's office and, that we are that we are focused on, you know, not just going out trying to buy as much as we can, but really trying to tailor, what we can afford to to our response. And, right now, we're gonna have we'll be putting our our second dock on our roof. Literally right now, Skydio's here installing dock number three, on our roof, so we'll have our first hive.

We've been simulating the hive, which which, do you guys have standalone drones? I don't know if I mentioned this before, but we have a, we have a combination of field deployed x tens and dock deployed. And for us, that really works best because it gives you the most flexibility in your response utilizing the drone. So you could take a a x ten, set it on the roof next to the dock, and essentially kinda have a hive that that you can launch multiple drones from.

We also looked at call duration, and, our reach from our police department is actually really good. Our we're we're in the southern quadrant of our city, but fairly centered east to west. So we can reach a mile and a quarter east and a mile and a quarter west. No problem. And, we do that quite frequently. So that's why we decided to add a second drone to the PD instead of trying to figure out another spot just because we found through, just getting out there and flying that, most of our calls for service could be flown from the police department.

So when we look at airspace, how large is your coverage area that you're trying to fly, DFR flights?

Do you have any no fly zones? You have a zero grid in your area. We'll bring in the FAA maps, and we do this with our deployment model. And then do you have the appropriate waivers insight or sorry, in place to do BVLOS, flights?

If you don't, what's the process to get there? We have teams in place to help you with this.

And then there's also the new certificate of waiver that's out now.

And so agencies I'll touch on this on the slide at the end, but agencies are getting these, very quickly these days, and so being able to get up and running with your baby last flights very quickly.

And then lastly, we look at our vehicle parameters. So we look at our flight time, our average crew speed, our battery life, and takeoff time, and we take into account the attachments as well because, obviously, that, makes a difference in flight time and some other things. So we look at all of these things when we bring in the data to our system.

And so before we jump into the data for San Mateo, can you kind of just level set for everyone here and give them an overview on the city itself first?

Yeah. We're, about a hundred and five thousand population. We're about a hundred and twenty sworn, twelve square miles or so. We're the largest city in our county, and we're centrally located between San Francisco, Oakland, and San Jose. So for those of you out there that know the, San Francisco Bay Area, we're pretty busy because we get, a lot of our criminals, a lot of our crime, is, thanks to what we call, like, transient criminals. They're not our homegrown criminals. They're coming from different locations.

If you blew up the San Mateo Bridge, we'd we'd all be out of a job because, it's it's probably the most frequently traveled escape route out of our city.

So, you know, given given where we're we're located, we we stay fairly busy, out here in San Mateo.

Awesome. And then how about a little bit of information just on the PD itself?

Yeah. So, like I said, we're about a hundred and twenty sworn. We have about sixty thousand or so calls for service, and that's just citizen calls for service. If you add our officer initiated, we're upwards of, like, eighty something thousand calls for service on average. We do have a custom airspace. We are situated in between SFO and San Carlos, Municipal Airports.

We worked with both airports for a long time. We started making contacts at the towers, making friends there because making friends there was really good for us. We also have some g airspace off to our west, which is which is really nice. But we're also you know, being situated so close to SFO, we are within the mode c vale, of the airport, which actually helps us, due to, Skydio's ADSB capabilities and, the FAA's willingness to, to give a NOVIA waiver. So we actually have a Koa and a Kao, depending on what we're flying and where we're flying.

We have, twenty or so pilots. They're all part one zero seven.

They all take the test. We all do a three day, training down at the RTC, and then we have our own training requirements that we put them through in in, NIST test. And we have in house NIST instructors, that that, give the NIST test to our pilots. We're working on, training up.

We have, six six pilots at the moment that are training up on the dock to fly out of the dock. We have in house train the trainers. We're working on training up a couple more, and then, we're working on getting everybody on board with the x ten in the field. We have, I think, twelve or so right now.

So we're kinda going through the progression of getting everybody trained up on, on everything that we're flying at the moment.

Awesome. So, hopefully, there's some people here on the call that can relate to the size of your agency and kind of what you guys are doing. So I'm gonna run through what we did for San Mateo. So we took their historical calls for service between January of twenty twenty four and December, so a full year of calls for service.

And there were around twenty seven thousand of those that were priority one and priority two. And then we did a couple of other things here. We took into consideration a thirty minute time on scene. We looked just at priority one and two.

We avoided, obviously, the zero grid. You can see that in this image to the right. The blue dots, generated all of the call for service that they had, who's twenty seven thousand, and then the grid where they couldn't fly. So we're obviously not looking to put docks in those locations.

And then we did this analysis for them with the x ten with NightSense.

So NightSense is our attachment, for allowing, you know, these autonomous, operations at night. So you can still fly with the same confidence as you do during the day, but that adds a little bit of weight to the x ten, so that changes some of the numbers. So we're just kind of showing you that we're really basing this on data driven results, as closely as possible as we can with everything that we know about your jurisdiction, your police department, and our equipment.

And so then we got to phase one, and this is kind of where you guys are right now. So you can kind of talk through what that looks like and what dock based deployment looks for you in this phase.

Yeah. So phase one, we started with, our dock right on on on the PD, and, we just we just started, we found a pilot. We, we had people flying part time and on overtime.

We still don't have a a a full time pilot outside of our light duty folks that we're using. So, you know, we didn't want we didn't want anything to slow us down. We felt like we had momentum, rolling into the DFR program.

We're pumping out a lot of overtime. Our our we have some very passionate pilots, who stayed late after shift to fly.

And, you know, phase one was very successful for us really fast, and it doesn't take long. And those of you guys out there that all have, drone programs and are flying currently, whether it's out of a car or off a roof or out of a dock, you guys all see the value right away. And it doesn't take long to get a couple really good wins, when and then all of a sudden your chiefs and your command staffs are like, oh, yeah. We need more.

We need more of this. I need more of these. So that's really what happened to us is, we were we were in a beta, with the doc, and right away, it was like, okay. This is this is very valuable.

We need to add to this program.

And then we that's when we jumped in and made the purchase of, of the other two docks, and the other x tens in the field. So, you know, just if you're gonna get started with one dock or even just flying a drone off of a roof, crew based off a roof, don't don't let any of that that hold you back. Get get started, get rolling, find pilots, fly on overtime, you know, fly special special events, fly missions.

We were putting I was putting out overtime and just gathering two or three pilots and saying, hey. You guys grab your drone. Go support patrol for the weekend, with with a couple DFR shifts. And, again, those wins will come and and the value will will be seen, and then all of a sudden, the people who are writing checks will will will get in there and support you.

Awesome. And then we have a video here if you wanna and I did admittedly, I'll tell everyone I sped this up a little bit so that it would go a little faster. But if you wanna talk through this doc based flight that you did?

Yeah. So this is off the roof of the PD. You can see, once the gimbal comes up, that's our east side. Highway one zero one is one of our major, thoroughfares through the city.

We had a loss a lot of calls for service up and down, El Camino, which you'll see here in a minute. We're gonna fly west towards the mall.

We were flying west towards the mall.

Yeah. I think the video is just being a little jumpy on this.

So what we found from where we are right here is we can get to two major shopping malls in about a hundred and twenty seconds.

They're about a mile away. And with the camera on the x ten, you don't have to be right on top of your target. You could be a quarter mile away and already be starting to get intel as you're flying up to the to the target you selected.

So we're flying right now. The large building right in front of Hillsdale is Hillsdale Mall. It's, along the El Camino Real Corridor, which is one of our busiest, corridors.

It's a state route eighty two that runs north and south, through the entirety of our city.

Then you have the train tracks. You got some new developments. So we we, and this is just just a simple flight to the mall and back. We do patrols when the when the mall has large events. We will, we'll oftentimes do passing checks at the mall when they have, they host Christmas parties, and they do things outside on the lawn where we can we can, fly and make sure that, we can clear rooftops.

We can, you know, check around all the buildings with the Sky UX ten and the obstacle avoidance that that it has. We can fly down in between the buildings and and search. We can even fly in the parking garages. So gives us a lot of options for, for being able to get out there and and check on things that are going on.

Perfect. Alright. We'll jump back into the deck here, and we will talk about phase two. So when we looked at phase two for San Mateo, we, said that they would need nine docs in three hives to respond to eighty one percent of their p one and p two calls for service. And can you just give the audience, like, a quick overview of what p one and p two means at San Mateo?

Yeah. Our priority one calls, are immediately dispatched, and they are typically, you know, your felonies, your in progress, your your person's crimes, so your robberies, any any type of, collision with major injuries.

So our priority two calls could be disturbances, calls of, you know, suspicious persons that usually can pend those those can pend five to ten or so minutes, before they get dispatched. And and, you know, a lot of times our pilots are listening to live nine one one. So we're hearing the call come out. So we're not even waiting for dispatch to determine what it is.

We're here in the call. We're like, oh, yeah. We're gonna fly that. So a lot of times, like this morning, we were in the air and on our way to the call, before the officers were dispatched, and and on scene minutes before the officers got there.

So, you know, the ability to for live nine one one, listening to the live calls as they come in is is a big part of, big part of DFR because you can get there a lot faster.

Yeah. I totally agree. And a lot of agencies are definitely using that with their DFR program. What you're seeing in the image to the right, the red circles there are what would be a hive, and this is nine docs and three hives.

So this is three docs per hive, and then you're seeing, you know, the purple. Those are all the calls relative to this doc at the top of the image, The blue is relative to the central and the green. So these are all the calls for service relative to the area they were located in and then where the the drones and the docks would sit in in relation to that.

So nine docks in three hives would respond to seventy four percent of the p one and p two calls for service in under one hundred and twenty seconds. And I'm gonna back up here in case you missed it. This one says eighty one percent of their calls for service. This one says in under one hundred and twenty seconds, so in less than two minutes.

That's the difference here. With the nine docs, three hives, seventy four percent of those calls, we will get to in less than two minutes, and that's what you're seeing in this image here again, your hives on the right. And then this is a graph where we kind of plot this out. So on the x axis, you're seeing the seconds.

On the y, you're seeing the percent of calls that we can respond to. So if I look at, like, fifty percent of calls, we're at, what, seventy five ish seconds. So that's just giving you an idea. If we were concerned with seventy five seconds, we would say this number of docs and hives would respond to fifty percent of the p one, p two calls for service.

So So that shows you how on a sliding scale, we can kind of change this based on how much you wanna respond to and how quickly you want to do it.

And so then what you're seeing here, the nine docs in three hives for eighty one percent of, eighty one percent of the time, we're looking at call coverage versus the docs per hive. So, obviously, the more docs that you have in a hive, the more coverage you are going to have in your calls. So you have more manpower in these drones to respond to more calls instead of just having one drone on a rooftop. Again, that's accounting for multiple calls for service at the same time, which we take into account when we look at your data because we're getting that information with your historical call for service information.

And then we look at what it takes to operate these drones. So to have an eighty one percent coverage, that would require two operators in San Mateo.

You'll see that the peak demand time is, at at the hour of the day or at the bottom. Right? And then on the right, we have average operators required.

San Mateo is busiest in certain locations, and so we're saying on average, you would need about two operators during these peak times to manage all of the calls at the same time. And that's assuming that while you were flying to a call, because the drone is responding autonomously, that you have zero attention to it while it is in transit, but that you have one hundred percent of attention to that drone while it is on the scene, on the incident, on station.

And so that's those are things to consider as well, but we do give you that information so you have an understanding of the type of staffing that you would need for your program.

And, of course, deployment is scalable. You will get different results based on the investment that you make. Obviously, the more docs that you have, the you know, that decreases your response time, that increases your coverage, that makes sure you get to a higher percentage of your calls for service.

And then citywide coverage for San Mateo looks like fifteen docs in five hives would respond to eighty six percent of their p one, p two calls in under two minutes.

And so what you're seeing there again on the right, these red circles indicate your five hives and then multiple docs in each hive. If I were to zoom in on this image, you would see a number and that would tell you the number of docs that you would want in that particular hive. And I wanna pause here for a second to point this out because I know there's a little bit of misinformation in the world right now. Skydio x ten is not limited to a two mile radius.

This the x ten will fly indefinitely as long as it has connectivity via five g and our Connect Fusion.

We are only limited by our battery life, which inevitably will only get better as our technology gets better.

I know we spoke about this before, Lieutenant Riccardi, but can you kind of speak about using batteries and patrol cars and emergency landing spots and kind of some ways you can kind of get around this battery life, for the duration of your flight?

Yeah. For sure. So, you know, don't Noreen's pretty much nailed it. We've fly we've flown over two miles.

We're we're we're not coming back, but we flew over two miles, out of our dock and, landed in the field. We're able to swap batteries and put the drone back up. So this is this is partly why I feel like, you know, a combination of field deployed x tens and dock deployed x tens gives you, the ultimate flexibility, in in your with your program. So, I don't know.

A couple months ago, we responded out to a suspicious person in a large, large office complex. It's a ten or twelve story building, out on the east side of our our town. We flew the drone the dock from the PD out to the site. We're on-site flying around, and, I I grabbed the other drone.

I jumped in the command car. I drove out there, knowing that we might be here for a while, that we had a large area to clear. We had a suspicious person inside. Didn't really know what was going on.

As our folks are entering the building, I'm firing up the other drone and just setting it in the parking lot. And then, Marcello, one of my pilots, commandeered that drone while I was up and then landed the, dock drone. I swapped the battery out on the dock drone, and we did our own little hot swap right there in the parking lot at the command post and never lost eyes on. So, you know, the the flexibility that you get, with with, having spare batteries and spare drones in the field is huge.

We also hot swap the batteries on the roof. So if, last Saturday, we flew we had a pride parade, and we had a protest, on El Camino. We had, I don't know, a couple of three, four thousand people at the parade, and we probably had thousand or so people at the protest.

And we had a a couple and one other big event going on. And, Savannah, another one of our pilots, was running up and down the stairs, hot swapping, the dock battery so that we didn't have to wait for the dock to charge. We would just hot swap that battery, put it back up, then we land the fuel drone. Right?

So we would launch the fuel drone that would hold us over for the hot swap, and then we would come back out. So, I mean, really, your options are are really endless, coming up. You just gotta think about your your landing in the field, your landing in the drone. Can you get to the dock so, like, in in the in the library dock, we won't be able to run out there, and hot swap that battery.

So that's one of the things that we're gonna have to think about. When we launch the library dock, we're gonna wanna drone in the field. We're not gonna wanna land that at the dock for a hot swap. We're just gonna wanna land that in the field, and hot swap that battery, and then it can take off, and and we can continue our mission.

So having batteries and drones in the field, really is a force multiplier, for your drones that are coming out of the docks.

Yeah. And that's why we're so big Hive. So that's why we think that you should have multiple docks in one location so that you can do all of these things, send another drone out while one goes home to charge, and keep continuous overwatch on an incident without having to do a lot of extra work. But for the agencies that are interested in kind of, you know, starting with a one dock situation, the batteries and patrol cars is something that a lot of people are doing.

Next slide here. Not coming up.

There we go.

So in their phase three deployment, again, this is for citywide. This is looking at, what, eighty six point four percent of their calls we would reach in less than two minutes, and ninety percent coverage would require two operators. So same as last time, two operators to get to that ninety percent coverage.

So all in all, it is citywide coverage. Fifteen docks in San Mateo could free over fourteen hundred officers annually.

And so what's really important here is that, you know, call response, how long it takes you to get to a call is definitely one of the pieces of the puzzle for DFR. But the other one is this whole concept of freeing up officer hours and letting the drone clear calls for you. And so let's break down what that looks like.

Annual calls for service in the deployment zones that we looked at for San Mateo was sixteen thousand.

If we can respond to eighty six percent of those in less than two minutes, so that's sub one hundred and twenty seconds.

And on average, agencies are reporting between twenty and twenty five percent. We have Redmond PD just said that they're, clearing calls about twenty five percent of the time with the drone without sending officers. But here, we did it, for San Mateo quite a quite a while ago. We used twenty one percent of those calls. And so that means that we could eliminate twenty nine hundred calls for service each year with the drone arriving on scene. And so if we say that the time the call received, to call cleared is about fifteen minutes, and usually you have two officers responding to a particular call, You'll see that these are the the hours saved now.

And then the that's fourteen hundred times one twenty six, which is we're taking kind of a national average on, hourly rate for a patrol officer, and then that's coming to seventy five thousand dollars, the value of the time saved by sending a drone out so that they can you know, the operator can clear the call without having to send ground units.

And, of course, you know, there are, so many pieces of the puzzle.

But for DFR outcomes, you know, of course, we're saving time, money, resources, lives. Saving lives and increasing safety, number one, of course.

We, talk about reduced use of force. A lot of agents who say that about fifty percent of the time, they are eliminating use of force. Obviously, this changes from agency to agency, but that's just because we have more information when their officers arrive. Right? The caller states that, subject has a gun, drone goes up, subject doesn't have a gun. So now our officers have a completely different approach to that scene than they would have if they believed the person had a gun.

If you have not seen the video from Bernalillo County Sheriff's Office, it's a seven and nine year old in the backyard with a firearm. They're waving it around. They pulled the trigger.

Without the drone, those officers could have taken very different action on that scene, but they had a drone in the air. They were able to keep their distance, allow for additional time to deescalate the situation, and, eventually, it came to a peaceful resolution.

But these are all the things that we're looking at with the DFR program. It's not just about response times. There's so many more things that go into it when you're building it out.

And, of course, none of this would be, real if we didn't have the BV loss waivers in place to conduct, DFR operations. NYPD received the the nation's first citywide baby loss waiver without a visual observer.

Three hundred plus more agencies have since received the same waiver.

Lieutenant Riccardi, you mentioned your coa and your cal, your certificate of waiver.

A lot of agencies are doing both, but with this new part ninety one DV loss waiver approvals, kinda wanna show this timeline real quick because I think it's super interesting to see how things are changing with the FAA.

On the far left, this was pre or October of this last year, and it was taking over four hundred days, more than a year, for an agency to get approval. I do believe that was NYPD.

And then if you see the docs all the way to the far right, they're happening so much quicker now. We are averaging a six day approval process. I've seen some come through in forty eight hours. So, a lot easier if you need help getting through that. We have all the teams in place, and we can help you walk through that process as well. Shout out to JT. He's our regulatory guru.

And we're here to help you build your DFR program. So going through this model, and I'm gonna have Lieutenant Riccardi speak to it real quickly about the importance of understanding DFR programs with call for service data, but we also have regulatory teams.

We have deployment teams who will go out. They'll check your connectivity coverage. They'll do site assessments of the locations where you wanna place docks. We'll make sure that everything's good to go before a dock ever arrives at your site so we know you're gonna have everything that you need. It's going to work as expected, and they will stay there with you on-site until you're flying DFR flights, which agencies are actively doing every single day now since we've rolled out the Doc4X ten.

And then we'll help you, kind of with everything along the way.

You know, getting your training, getting everything, so we know DFR programs aren't easy. They are a heavy lift, but we have the teams in place to help you get through it. So, Lieutenant Riccardi, kind of before we jump into some of the questions here, how important was it for you and your agency or your leadership in particular to see kind of this data driven approach, not just to randomly placing docs and locations, but to understanding they were going into places that were, saturated with high priority calls.

Well, yeah, it made all the difference in the world because, you know, those of you that are on the call that that are involved in drone programs, you guys know how valuable they are. But to go to to go to your command staff and your city managers or your county managers and and ask them for a lot of money just because, you know, hey. This is a good idea. We should do this. Doesn't really suffice. So when you bring this package to them and you can show them that that what you're saying is backed up by data is is is huge. And and that that is what caught the attention of our city manager where we showed, our city manager, our city council.

We showed them our our chief.

This this is the data, and this is what we can do, with this program if we build it out. And, we got a lot of support that way. We also sold this as a citywide asset. This is not a police asset.

This is can be used by public works, by parks. We've flown parks. We've mapped parks. We've mapped, parking garages for public works.

Fire department, very useful for for fire. On rescue, we have a lot of bayfront, so we, we've been working with fire on, on, getting them involved in a regional approach so that now we can fly drones, calls for service they have on the water rescue. So, there's a lot of, resources that that you can you can attack with this program. And don't just sell it as a you know, we want this for crime fighting.

This is not just a crime fighting tool. This is a this is a safe cities tool overall, and that's that's how we sold it and providing the data to back up, what what you're saying is is huge.

Yeah. That's super helpful. So for those of you that are here today, if you were interested in completing some type of DFR modeling with us, this is the information that we need from you. We do need all of your kind of in a spreadsheet, call date and time, the lat long of that particular incident, and how you classify that in priority.

Also helpful if we know your hot spot areas or specific precincts and sectors that you're instant interested in doing DFR in. Obviously, as we run our our, you know, simulation of what this looks like, we will be able to see where your hot spots are just based on where you're getting the most calls for service. But if you can provide us this at a minimum, we can help you get started on figuring out the best way to crawl, walk, run to a full DFR program if that's what you're looking to do based on where you need assistance the most, where your officers are out there the most responding to these, you know, high risk, high priority dynamic situations, and they could use a lot of extra help from some aerial overwatch.

So I'm gonna get into a couple of the questions. We only have a few minutes left here. Lieutenant Riccardi, I'll I'll send this one over to you. This was kind of after you played the doc video for us. Was your drone video backhauled to your operation center for the operators to watch and to operate the drone? So if you can talk about how that works at San Mateo.

Yeah. So this this drone right here is being a phone remote. We're sitting in, in the real time information center. We have we have four stations set up that we, predesignated with IT to make sure we had enough bandwidth to run, the video and and everything else we run on the computer at the same time.

This one was happened to be from the real time information center, where we're sitting in a in a in a safe environment, in a room, and we're able to have maps up, CADs up on a screen. Our, we use flight radar up on a screen, to also watch for incoming flights as well as paying attention to Skydio's ADS BN alert. So we have multiple screens up, and, we're flying basically from a from a real time information center. But we can also fly from other locations that we've predesignated.

Awesome. Hopefully, that was helpful to the person that had that question.

Someone said they are how many people do you at San Mateo have available to staff your RTIC, and is it staffed seven days a week, three sixty five? Also, to add to that, how often are you finding that you're flying on average per day?

Yeah. So we are we're currently staffed with, we have two pilots on light duty. We're gonna shift their schedules and to a Sunday to Wednesday and Wednesday to Saturday. So we'll have seven day a week coverage.

It'll be mostly swing shift hours. But we also have, a dispatcher who works in the Arctic quite often. She's also a pilot. So we have three pilots that rotate through the through the Arctic quite frequently.

Right now, for last the numbers that we're showing right now are based on, a Tuesday to Friday model working, swing shift hours, with basically one pilot and then, like, myself or Marcello who works in traffic, flying part time here and there, when when we need to.

What was the other part of the question?

How many calls are you flying on average per day?

Our our calls for service have jumped, since we installed the dock. And and really really as we've added pilots. Right? So the more pilots we have, the more flights.

But if you look at our our average calls for service, our flights per day, if you look at year to date, I think it's right around six to seven. And then if you look at the last sixty days, it jumps to eight. And I just looked the other day, we're back up to, like, thirteen to fourteen, flights. So as as we add docks, as we add pilots, we are increasing our flights.

And if I I would almost guarantee you in the next thirty days with two pilots and three docks, we're gonna be somewhere upwards of twenty plus flights per day.

Awesome.

There's a question about Illinois having restrictive laws for law enforcement flying. We do have several agencies in Illinois who are doing DFR programs, so absolutely feel free to reach out to me. I will get you, some contacts or some additional information there. We can help you through that. You can either send me a note through Skydio Live, via the message or you can email me at noreen dot charlton at skyvio dot com.

Same goes for the question about materials that could assist in articulating the value of the DFR program. That is my specialty. I would love to help you there.

Again, feel free to email me or shoot me a message there in Skydio Live, and I'll get you everything that you need.

How about can you talk about a little bit this we'll take this as the last question because we're right here at the top of the hour, but, someone asked a question about not being able to use drones in, weather or kind of any other conditions. Can you talk about your experience with flying in rain or wind? Anything like that?

We have, we have quite a bit of experience, actually. When we installed our first dock, it was almost, I would say, would, what I would consider a a pretty heavy, rain and wind.

We were probably, I don't know, blowing thirty plus miles an hour forty, and it was pouring rain, and the poor guys that were installing the dock were soaking wet. But we're running our test flights in this weather, and I'm like, couldn't be couldn't that is not what the day looked like just for the record.

It was those flags were were full value flags, and, we actually we we flew out in the rain. I'm like, this is a perfect test. We have Skydio here on-site. We're flying in the wind, in the rain, in the weather. It was I I've seen I've seen the, the drone laying in the dock where it is swirling left, right, left, right, left, right, and it just finds that April tag and then down it goes, in in the in the weather and the rain. And it it, we have some good videos that, maybe we can share with, with Skydio and and put those out. But we, we have full confidence that we can fly this thing in all kinds of weather.

Yeah. That's awesome. And, for everyone else out there, if you need any additional information on that, we have we were intentional about the agencies we chose for our beta program. So we're flying in extreme heat and cold and snow and rain and ice and you name it, it was there.

So we've done a lot of extensive testing around extreme weather conditions, and more than happy to help you with anything else that you need there. We are a minute over. Thanks to everyone that was hanging out with us today. Lieutenant Riccardi, as always, I really appreciate you, friend.

Thanks for hanging out with me and doing this session with me. If you have any questions, you need any help, you wanna speak to anyone, or see their TFR program, please just reach out. We're more than happy to connect you to more people like Lieutenant Riccardi who are a wealth of knowledge in this space and also just really open to showing off kind of what they're doing in their agency. So appreciate you all.

This recording will be available for you if you need it, and, thanks again, and take care. Stay safe.

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